Episode 76

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30th Oct 2026

Quick Spoon: Moving on doesn't mean something went wrong

When we think about moving on, we often assume something has gone wrong. Perhaps we're unhappy, we've failed, or we've reached the point where we simply can't carry on.

But what if it's different?

In this Quick Spoon, former professional ballet dancer Chris Rodgers-Wilson reflects on a moment when he realised that performing Romeo might be the peak of what he wanted to achieve in his dancing career. It wasn't a carefully planned decision, it was a quiet moment of recognition: he'd been fortunate, he'd achieved something meaningful, and he felt ready to start thinking about what came next.

Chris's story raises an important question for all of us: Can we recognise when a chapter of our working lives has reached its natural conclusion, without feeling that we have to justify leaving it behind?

A role, project or commitment can have been valuable, rewarding and important to us—and still be something we're ready to move on from.

Something to think about

Is there a role, project or commitment in your life that has been important to you but feels as though it might be reaching its natural conclusion?

You don't have to make a decision today. Just notice what tells you that you might be ready for something different.

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Transcript
Chris:

You have a quiet moment there wh-whilst everyone else is backstage, And

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I, I remember thinking to myself that I just had this feeling this is probably

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the last story ballet that I'll do.

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and it was funny.

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It, it wasn't like a, it wasn't premeditated, it just came to me.

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And and I think from that point, I think I just felt like I've done

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what I wanted to do in this career.

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Like I've, I've really been so fortunate with the opportunities

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that I've had and this is a beautiful sort of peak opportunity for me

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and, and I think I'm actually ready to start thinking about this.

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So

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It felt like getting to that point to do Romeo was this,

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the top of the mountain for me,

Ross:

Hi there, and welcome to People Soup Quick Spoon.

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Real conversations about work, leadership, and being human.

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I'm Ross McIntosh, and here's your Quick Spoon Chris's story raises

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interesting questions about change

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We often think about moving on as a response to something going wrong

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like we're unhappy, we've failed Or we've reached a point where we just

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can't carry on But sometimes moving on comes from a different place.

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We've achieved something meaningful we've taken what we can from an experience

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and we're beginning to feel ready for a new chapter And that doesn't make

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the old chapter any less valuable.

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so here's something to try.

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Is there a role, project, or commitment in your life that has been important

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to you but feels like it might be reaching its natural conclusion?

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You don't have to make a decision today

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Just notice what tells you that you might be ready for something different.

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That's your Quick Spoon.

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Until next time, take care

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People Soup
Real conversations about work, leadership and being human.
Grounded in behavioural science, with practical ideas you can actually use.

The name People Soup comes from a quote by Abraham Maslow:

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Ross McIntosh

I'm Ross McIntosh, a business psychologist, coach and facilitator, with over 30 years' experience helping people thrive at work.

People Soup grew from a simple belief: work is an important part of life, but it doesn't have to come at the expense of our wellbeing, our relationships or our values.

Each episode explores the realities of work, leadership and being human through the lens of behavioural science. Sometimes that's a conversation with an inspiring guest. Sometimes it's a short "Quick Spoon" offering a practical idea you can put into practice straight away.

My work is grounded in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), an evidence-based approach that helps people develop psychological flexibility: the ability to stay purposeful, adaptable and effective, even when life gets messy.

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When I'm not recording the podcast or working with clients, you'll usually find me reading, cycling, improving my Spanish, or enjoying life in southern Spain with my husband.