Perspectacles the Remix

Perspectacles the Remix

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[00:00:00] Ross: Hi there, and a very warm welcome to Season five, episode 55 of People Soup. It's Ross Macintosh here, pea Soupers This week it's a cup of soup and a remix. I bring you a refreshed version of one of our most popular episodes from season four. want to talk to you about perspective taking and how that relates to the world between our ears.

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[00:01:17] The now get a brew on and have a listen to my reflections on per spectacles.

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[00:01:41] In my work and life. I constantly marvel that workplaces can function. Relationships can happen and be sustained and agreements can be made because I reckon we can spend a lot of time assuming that people are thinking just like us

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[00:02:05] and this was brought to life by an experiment conducted by Elizabeth Newton in 1990. So let me explain the experiment. in pairs, people were allocated the role of Tapper or listener. The Tapper was invited to tap out the rhythm of a popular song from a list of 25, such as happy birthday or the star Spangled banner.

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[00:02:51] And I ain't going to tap them at with two pencils. Okay. So here we go. Song one.

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[00:03:10] so how did you get on? Because in the next part of the experiment, before the listener guest, the Tapper was also asked. How many people would get it. Right. And they thought about 50%. Now, in reality, how many of the listeners actually got song right?

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[00:03:48] before I reveal what I was tapping, let's just think about what was going on there. The different roles of the Tapper and the listener. the difference is when I was tapping out the songs for you. I was singing the song in my head, but [00:04:00] you went in there with me. Where are you?

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[00:04:05] the shack, those gone to see up buckles on his knee. He'll come back and marry me, Bonnie poppy, chef and that's Bobby chef DOE a nursery rhyme. That's probably quite particular to the Northeast of England. and song to wonder if anyone got this

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[00:04:37] Right. So how did you get on P supers? When we talk to our partners, our friends, our children, our work colleagues, they don't have the context that's going on in our heads. They're not experiencing the inner world that we're experiencing, which could well be based on a whole range of factors and experiences we've had in our lives.

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[00:05:07] at work. Other people don't know the soundtrack that's playing in our heads. They don't know our work songs.

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[00:05:25] audio_only_16780290_Diana_Hill: So for example, with perspective taking, I might have people take their hands and make them into two O's and you could do this now with me, take your hands and put them into two O's and then you put the O's right over your eyes. Like you're wearing goggles. And these goggles are, are often our self stories, our beliefs about who we are and who other people are.

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[00:06:08] Maybe my right hand is the I'm not good enough story. And my left hand is the I'm better than you story. And we can hold both. For so such so interesting. I can believe that I'm not good enough. And at the same time, believe that I'm better than right. So we can have these self stories that are limiting.

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[00:06:58] And you can see in the corners of your eyes, your hands, but really you're focusing your mind forward. And then you can even drop your hands and keep that spacious panoramic view so that now you have a fuller perspective on you. On your story, but also one that is interconnected and that's really a three 60 perspective.

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[00:07:50] And Oh yeah, here I am goggles on. I'm only saying, you know, you're in a fight with your partner, with a friend, with your mom, with your dad, with your kid, you know what you're doing, God was [00:08:00] on, you know? And so I can feel that feeling of, well, this is when my goggles are on that. I'm caught up in a South story and now I also know the feeling of what it's like to be.

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[00:08:36] I love that exercise from Diana. who talks about ourselves stories and beliefs, those beliefs about who we are and those beliefs about who other people are in the workplace.

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[00:08:52] and Delta people can't hear our work song and sometimes we don't appreciate that. And that's when things might go awry.

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[00:09:10] Ross: I'd really like your help in reaching more people with this behavioral science, so

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[00:09:54] Thanks to Andy Glenn for his spoon magic and Alex Engelberg for his vocals. Most of all, dear [00:10:00] listener, thanks to you. Look after yourselves, peace supers, and bye for now.

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