Episode 54

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30th May 2024

The Head of Drama

Hi there and a very warm welcome to Season 5, Episode 54 of People Soup, it's Ross McIntosh here.

P Soupers - this week it's a cup a soup - where I reflect on my recent trip to Dublin and how sometimes my mind can be less than helpful and how quickly it can escalate an everyday issue.

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Transcript

The Head of Drama

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[00:00:18] So let me set the scene. I was staying in a lovely hotel, Which I would thoroughly recommend, by the way. It was the Hyatt centric The Liberties in Dublin. Very handy for the Guinness Storehouse, where I was working for two days. So, on the morning of the first workshop, I got up early and went out for a quick walk before breakfast.

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[00:00:40] I then went down for breakfast. Okay, as you ask, I had a ham and cheese omelette with some sourdough toast and a pot of decaffeinated coffee. I'm a boy who knows how to live. Incidentally, the night before once I'd arrived, I legged it to Sprout and Co.

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[00:01:44] Our mission is to unlock workplace potential with expert perspectives from contextual behavioral science.

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[00:02:00] So, I'd finished my breakfast and was back in my room packing my rucksack. I went to open the safe to get my stuff. The safe was in a deep drawer, and the lid of the safe opened like a piano keyboard or a chest freezer. So hopefully you get the idea. I entered the code for the safe with confidence, and shockingly, dear listener, it flashed ERR.

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[00:02:25] I was not too alarmed. So I carefully entered the number again, and it flashed ERR. Error again. So I began to feel a little panic rising. I could feel my mouth getting a bit dry and my mind beginning to race. So I thought, come on Macintosh, let's just enter that number once more.

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[00:03:13] Now, the first three items might seem acceptable for a regular human being, but my notes and my notebook? Pea soupers, I kind of feel like I'd be lost without them. And also, you never know when there might be the first case of industrial espionage in the training and business psychology community. So let's go back to my mind.

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[00:03:50] What was my mind saying? My mind was saying, I need to call reception or go down to reception to explain. What if there's a queue at reception? Should I go down there or call? What if the person who [00:04:00] can unlock the safe can't come straight away? I was frozen. I'll need to see if I can get the slides sent from a colleague to the client, and perhaps use one of their laptops.

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[00:04:31] And I got well and truly tangled up in the stuff that my mind had generated. So what happened? I caught my mind in flight and just took a few deep breaths. During this pause, I used a technique which helps me to recognise what my mind is up to, because sometimes our minds generate such compelling content that is so captivating that we can get tangled up in it, and it can then influence our actions and what we do next and what we notice.

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[00:05:16] And it had clearly escalated the malfunctioning safe to catastrophe in nanoseconds. So, instead of putting my shoes on to go down to reception, Now I'd managed to get off autopilot, breathe and pause, and call out my mind. I thought, let's just have another look at the safe. So I approached the safe and allowed myself to have a good look at the lid, really noticing what was in front of me.

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[00:05:56] and at that moment, I realized that the safe was not [00:06:00] locked. It was in the closed position due to gravity, but not actually locked. So I could retrieve my notes on my laptop and arrive in good time to deliver the first workshop.

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[00:06:29] Mine is the Head of Drama. By saying to myself, oh, there you are again, Head of Drama, I can then make a choice. A choice not to get tangled up in the dramatic consequences, but to decide what to do next that would serve me more effectively in the moment. In my case. That was actually noticing the details of the safe and the placement of the lid, allowing me to realize that it wasn't locked in the first place.

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[00:07:55] let's just enter that [00:08:00] number once more.

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About the Podcast

People Soup
Real conversations about work, leadership and being human.
Grounded in behavioural science, each episode is packed with practical ideas you can put into practice straight away.

The name People Soup comes from a quote by Abraham Maslow:

"A first-rate soup is more creative than a second-rate painting."

I've always loved that idea. Creativity isn't confined to art. It shows up in how we live, work, lead and relate to one another.

Work can sometimes feel like a soup: a rich, sometimes bewildering mix of people, personalities, decisions, pressures, relationships and unexpected challenges. Every day we're trying to make sense of the ingredients we've been given.

Behavioural science doesn't remove the complexity, but it gives us practical ways to navigate it. It offers ideas, skills and evidence-based tools that help us respond more effectively—to ourselves, to other people and to the situations we face.

That's what People Soup is all about.

Through conversations, solo episodes and practical tools, People Soup explores how behavioural science—and particularly Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT)—can help us lead, work and live with greater purpose, psychological flexibility and practical wisdom.

About your host

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Ross McIntosh

I'm Ross McIntosh, a business psychologist, coach and facilitator, with over 30 years' experience helping people thrive at work.

People Soup grew from a simple belief: work is an important part of life, but it doesn't have to come at the expense of our wellbeing, our relationships or our values.

Each episode explores the realities of work, leadership and being human through the lens of behavioural science. Sometimes that's a conversation with an inspiring guest. Sometimes it's a short "Quick Spoon" offering a practical idea you can put into practice straight away.

My work is grounded in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), an evidence-based approach that helps people develop psychological flexibility: the ability to stay purposeful, adaptable and effective, even when life gets messy.

Whether you're leading a team, supporting others, or simply trying to navigate the pressures of modern work, my hope is that People Soup gives you practical tools, fresh perspectives and the confidence to take your next meaningful step.

A few things about me
Chartered Fellow of the CIPD.
Fellow of the Association for Coaching.
Research collaborator with City St George's, University of London.
Speaker, facilitator and leadership development consultant.
Founder and Host of the People Soup podcast.

When I'm not recording the podcast or working with clients, you'll usually find me reading, cycling, improving my Spanish, or enjoying life in southern Spain with my husband.